How to Sell Clothes Online for Profit (2026): Complete Platform, Pricing & Packaging Guide
A woman in suburban Ohio cleared out her closet last January and listed 40 pieces across three platforms. Within 90 days she had pocketed $2,800. She didn’t have a ring light or a decade of reselling experience — she had a smartphone, a pile of well-chosen clothes, and a system. That system is exactly what this guide delivers.
The secondhand clothing market is projected to hit $367 billion globally by 2029. In the U.S., one in three garments purchased in 2025 was secondhand. Platforms like Poshmark, Mercari, and Depop have made selling used clothes online almost frictionless — but the resellers who consistently profit aren’t just listing and praying. They choose the right platforms, price strategically, photograph intentionally, and ship efficiently.
Whether you’re cleaning out your own closet or building a sourced-inventory resale business, this guide covers every step from what to sell and where to sell it, to pricing, photography, packaging, and scaling.
Why Selling Clothes Online Is One of the Best Entry Points for Resellers in 2026
Clothing checks every box for a beginner-friendly resale category.
Low startup cost. Your own closet is free inventory. A thrift store run yields 15-20 pieces for $30-50. Compare that to electronics or sneakers where a single sourcing mistake costs $200+.
Massive, year-round demand. People always need clothes. Seasonal spikes exist — coats in October, swimwear in April — but there’s no dead month for clothing resale.
Multiple platforms, multiple audiences. No other category has as many dedicated selling venues: Poshmark, Depop, Mercari, eBay, Vinted, ThredUp, Facebook Marketplace. The same band tee that sits on eBay for weeks might sell in 48 hours on Depop.
Forgiving margins. Clothing is lightweight and cheap to ship. Source a name-brand blouse for $4 at a thrift store. Spend $0.25 on a poly mailer, $4.50 on shipping. Sell on Mercari for $22. After the 10% fee, you net $11.05 — a 176% return on $8.75 invested. Do that 10 times a week and you’ve added $110+ to your weekly income.
Which Platform Should You Sell Clothes On?
The answer is almost never “just one.” Each platform has different fees, buyer demographics, and sweet spots. Here’s an honest breakdown.
Poshmark
Best for: Women’s contemporary and designer clothing, athleisure, shoes, handbags.
Fees: 20% commission on sales $15+. Flat $2.95 on sales under $15.
Shipping: Prepaid USPS Priority Mail label. Buyer pays $7.97. Weight limit 5 lbs.
Why use it: 80M+ users primarily shopping for fashion. Prepaid labels eliminate shipping guesswork. Bundle discounts drive higher order values. Seller-friendly return policies.
The catch: That 20% commission is the highest of any major platform — items under $20 are barely worth listing. The $7.97 buyer shipping cost deters budget shoppers. And you must share your closet daily for visibility.
Bottom line: List items you can price at $25+. Poshmark’s audience pays premium prices for Lululemon, Free People, Anthropologie, and Nike. Read our Poshmark complete guide and understand the Poshmark fee structure before listing.
Mercari
Best for: Affordable everyday clothing, men’s apparel, casual brands.
Fees: 10% selling fee + 2.9% + $0.50 processing (~13% all-in).
Shipping: Flexible — prepaid labels or ship on your own.
Why use it: Lower fees make sub-$20 items profitable where they’d fail on Poshmark. No sharing requirement. Strong for men’s clothing. Fast, simple listing process.
The catch: Buyers are aggressive bargain-hunters — expect 30-50% discount requests. Lower average sale prices than Poshmark.
Bottom line: Your go-to for items priced $8-30. Our Mercari beginners guide covers the full setup.
eBay
Best for: Menswear, vintage clothing, brand-name denim, sneakers, luxury pieces.
Fees: ~13.25% final value fee for most clothing. Store subscribers get reduced rates.
Shipping: Full seller control — carrier, service, pricing.
Why use it: Largest marketplace with global reach. Best for men’s clothing, vintage, and collectibles. Sold listings data provides real-time pricing intelligence. International shipping via Global Shipping Program.
The catch: Complex fee structure. Buyer-friendly return policies mean costly returns. More listing effort required (item specifics, shipping setup).
Bottom line: Essential for men’s clothing, vintage denim (Levi’s 501s, Wrangler), collectible sneakers, and items over $100. Use our eBay fee calculator to estimate net profit before listing.
Depop
Best for: Trendy, Y2K, streetwear, vintage, curated fashion. Ages 16-30.
Fees: 0% seller fees in the U.S. Payment processing ~3.3%.
Why use it: Near-zero fees make every sale more profitable. Gen Z buyers pay premiums for curated vintage and streetwear. Algorithm rewards fresh listings and engaged sellers.
The catch: Younger buyers mean lower budgets for non-vintage items. Heavy aesthetic curation expectations. Shipping is seller-managed.
Bottom line: If you source vintage, Y2K, or streetwear, Depop is where margins are best. Our Depop selling guide covers shop setup to algorithm optimization.
Vinted, ThredUp & Facebook Marketplace
Vinted: Zero seller fees — buyers pay everything. Growing in the U.S. but smaller audience. Ideal for clearing $5-15 items where fees elsewhere erase profit.
ThredUp: Consignment model — you ship a bag, they do the rest and pay you 5-20% of sale price. Only use it when the alternative is donating. You’ll make 3-10x more on any other platform.
Facebook Marketplace: Zero fees on local sales. Great for bulk lots and heavy items. Flaky buyers and no seller protection on cash transactions, but fast turnover for competitively priced items.
Platform Decision Matrix
| Factor | Poshmark | Mercari | eBay | Depop | Vinted |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Seller Fees | 20% | ~13% | ~13.25% | ~3.3% | 0% |
| Best Price Range | $25-200+ | $8-50 | $15-500+ | $15-150 | $5-30 |
| Women’s Fashion | A+ | B+ | B | A | B+ |
| Men’s Fashion | B- | B+ | A | B+ | B |
| Vintage | B | C | A | A+ | C |
| Speed of Sale | Medium | Fast | Varies | Medium | Slow |
The winning strategy: Cross-list best items on 2-3 platforms. High-value women’s fashion goes on Poshmark and Depop. Men’s on Mercari and eBay. Lower-value items on Vinted. Crosslisting software like List Perfectly or Vendoo can publish one listing to multiple platforms, cutting listing time 60-70%.
Use our platform fee comparison tool to run exact numbers before deciding where to list any item.
What Types of Clothes Actually Sell (and What to Skip)
Time is your most valuable resource. Spending 15 minutes listing a $3 item is a losing proposition.
High-Demand Categories
Athleisure: Lululemon, Nike, Adidas, Athleta, Alo Yoga, Vuori. The single most consistent clothing resale category. Lululemon leggings sourced for $5-8 at thrift stores sell for $35-65.
Denim: Vintage Levi’s (501s, 505s, 517s), Wrangler, Lee, plus premium brands (AG, Citizens of Humanity, Mother). Vintage denim commands $50-200+ for the right cuts. See our guide on how to sell vintage clothing online.
Contemporary Women’s Brands: Anthropologie, Free People, Madewell, Reformation, J.Crew. Strong Poshmark followings and consistent demand.
Outdoor/Technical: Patagonia, The North Face, Arc’teryx. A Patagonia Better Sweater sourced for $8 sells for $45-70.
Vintage: 1980s-90s graphic tees, band tees, retro sportswear, Y2K pieces. A generic Hanes tee is worth $2, but with a 1992 Metallica concert graphic it’s $40-100.
Workwear and Business Casual: Blazers, dress pants, and button-downs from Brooks Brothers, Banana Republic, Theory, and Hugo Boss. Demand spikes in August-September (back-to-office season) and January (new year, new job energy). Quality wool blazers sourced for $6-10 at thrift stores consistently sell for $30-55.
What to Skip
- Fast fashion with no brand recognition (Shein, Romwe, unbranded Amazon) — sells for $3-5 at best
- Heavily worn basics — plain tees, stretched leggings, pilled sweaters
- Outdated formal wear — 2014 bridesmaid dresses, dated suits
- Anything with unfixable stains, odors, or damage — generates returns and negative reviews
- Most children’s clothing — sells for very low prices. Exceptions: Hanna Andersson, Mini Boden, Patagonia kids
Brand Resale Value Tiers
| Tier | Example Brands | Thrift Cost | Typical Resale | ROI |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| S-Tier | Lululemon, Patagonia, Arc’teryx, Free People | $4-10 | $35-90+ | 350-900% |
| A-Tier | Nike, Adidas, North Face, Anthropologie, Madewell | $3-8 | $18-45 | 200-500% |
| B-Tier | Banana Republic, Express, Ann Taylor | $2-5 | $10-22 | 150-350% |
| C-Tier | H&M, Zara, Target brands | $1-3 | $5-12 | 100-200% |
Check our clothing brand resale value index for a searchable database of 500+ brands with current resale values.
How to Source Clothes for Reselling
Sourcing is where profit is actually made. The sale price is fixed by the market — what you control is your cost.
Thrift Stores
Goodwill, Salvation Army, Savers/Value Village, and local independents are where most resellers build inventory. Visit 2-3 stores per trip, 60-90 minutes each. Focus on target-brand racks — don’t browse aimlessly. Learn to spot brand tags at a glance (Lululemon’s hang tag, Patagonia’s mountain logo). Touch fabrics as you scan: heavier, higher-quality fabric almost always means more value.
Best days: Tuesday-Thursday mornings when fresh inventory hits the floor and foot traffic is lowest. Pricing: $2-8 per piece. Goodwill color-tag sales drop pieces to $1-2.
Build relationships with thrift store employees — some will flag large donations from affluent neighborhoods. Sourcing in upscale areas is one of the most reliable strategies. Our guide on thrifting wealthy neighborhoods covers finding and working these goldmine locations.
Goodwill Outlet (Bin Stores)
Sold by the pound at $1.49-2.49/lb. A typical garment weighs 0.5-1.5 lbs, so you’re paying $0.75-3.75 per piece. Wear gloves, bring your own bags, and go early — bins rotate every 30-60 minutes. Flip to the tag, check the brand, assess condition in under 5 seconds. A 2-hour session can yield 30-50 pieces for $30-60 with a combined resale value of $300-800+.
Clearance Racks (Retail Arbitrage)
Target, Nordstrom Rack, TJ Maxx, and end-of-season department store clearance produce items at 70-90% off retail with strong resale demand. Focus on final clearance at 60%+ off. A $6 Nike Dri-FIT tee on Target clearance resells for $18-22 — solid arbitrage.
Your Own Closet
Free inventory, zero sourcing cost. Pull everything unworn for 12+ months, check brand names against sold comps, and list. Most people can source 15-40 items from their own closet and friends/family.
Wholesale, Estate Sales & Garage Sales
For scaling: bulk lots on eBay or liquidation sites (50-100 pieces at $1-3 each), clothing bales, and Amazon return pallets. Requires more capital ($200-1000+) and more risk since you can’t inspect every item beforehand.
Estate sales from older homeowners frequently contain vintage closets priced at $1-5 per item by companies that don’t know resale values. Check EstateSales.net, arrive early, head straight for closets and clothing racks.
Photography That Sells: How to Photograph Clothes for Maximum Appeal
Your photos are your storefront. The cover photo determines whether someone taps your listing or scrolls past.
Minimum Setup
- Light: A window with natural light, 2-3 feet away. North-facing windows give the most consistent diffused light. No flash, no overhead fluorescents.
- Background: A $12 white foam board from Dollar Tree — tape to wall, lay another on the floor.
- Camera: Your smartphone is fine. Clean the lens before every session.
For a complete photography deep-dive with lighting diagrams, read how to photograph items for resale.
The 6-Photo Framework
- Hero shot (flat lay): Full garment, wrinkle-free on a clean background. Steam or iron first — wrinkles kill perceived value.
- Brand tag close-up: Brand recognition drives purchases.
- Size tag: Buyers want to confirm sizing without messaging you (which adds friction).
- Fabric/detail shot: Close-up of texture, embroidery, or hardware. Communicates quality.
- Flaw documentation: Every stain, pull, or pilling — close-up, well-lit. This protects you from “not as described” returns.
- Styled/context shot: On a hanger, mannequin, or flat-laid with complementary pieces.
Photo Mistakes That Kill Sales
Dark, shadowy photos make buyers scroll past. Cluttered backgrounds scream “amateur.” Wrinkled clothing looks worn out and low-value (a 3-minute steaming session can add $5-10 to your sale price). Listings with 4+ photos sell 40-60% faster than those with 1-2. Max out every platform’s photo slots.
Pricing Strategy: How to Price Used Clothing for Profit
Pricing is where most new resellers either leave money on the table or overprice into zero sales.
The Comp Research Method
Before pricing any item, check what it’s actually selling for — not listed prices, which are meaningless if nobody’s buying.
- eBay: Filter by “Sold Items” under “Show only.” Check the last 10-15 sales for a price range.
- Poshmark: Sort by “Just Sold.”
- Mercari: Filter by “Sold” items.
Use our flip profit calculator to input sourcing cost, platform, and estimated sale price — it calculates net profit after fees and shipping so you can decide if an item is worth listing before photographing.
The Pricing Formula
Starting Price = Average Sold Price + 15-20% (negotiation buffer)
Buyers on every platform negotiate. Poshmark buyers send offers. Mercari buyers lowball. eBay buyers use Best Offer. If you price at market average, you sell below market after negotiation.
Example: Lululemon Align tank averages $38 sold on Poshmark. List at $44-46. Expect offers around $35-40. Sourcing cost: $6. Final sale at $38 minus 20% fee ($7.60) = $30.40 net. Profit: $24.40 on a $6 investment.
Price Anchoring and Bundling
Always include original retail price: “Retailed for $98, selling for $42 — 57% off retail.” This frames your price as a deal.
Offer bundle discounts (e.g., 20% off 2+ items). A buyer who came for a $35 jacket may add a $15 top and $12 scarf in a bundle, pushing your sale to $50+.
When to Drop Prices
- Days 1-14: Full price.
- Days 15-30: Drop 10%, send offers to likers/watchers.
- Days 31-60: Drop 15-20%, cross-list to additional platforms.
- Days 60-90: Final markdown 25-30%. If it doesn’t sell, relist to reset algorithmic freshness.
- 90+ days: Move to Vinted or Facebook Marketplace where zero fees make low prices viable.
Understanding each platform’s algorithm directly impacts pricing strategy — Poshmark algorithm secrets breaks down how pricing drops and sharing affect visibility.
Writing Listings That Convert: Titles, Descriptions & Keywords
A good photo gets the click. A good listing closes the sale.
Title Formula
Brand + Size + Key Detail + Item Type + Condition
- “Lululemon Align Tank Top Size 6 Black Nulu Fabric EUC”
- “Vintage Levi’s 501 Jeans 32x30 Medium Wash Made in USA”
- “Patagonia Better Sweater Fleece Jacket Men’s Large Blue NWT”
Common abbreviations buyers search: NWT (New With Tags), NWOT (New Without Tags), EUC (Excellent Used Condition), GUC (Good Used Condition).
Description Structure
Paragraph 1 — Hook and details: “Gorgeous Lululemon Align tank in black. Size 6, Nulu fabric, built-in bra. Worn twice, hand-washed only. No pilling, no fading, no flaws. Retailed for $68.”
Paragraph 2 — Measurements (laid flat): Pit to pit, length, waist, inseam. Always include measurements — this is the single biggest trust-builder. Buyers can’t try it on.
Paragraph 3 — Condition notes: “No stains, holes, pilling, or odors. Smoke-free home.” Be specific about any flaws: “Small pull on left hem — see photo 5. Priced accordingly.”
Paragraph 4 — Search keywords: “Tags: athleisure, yoga, workout, activewear.”
For a comprehensive listing framework, read how to write listings that sell.
Shipping Clothes: Methods, Materials & Cost-Saving Strategies
Shipping costs compound fast. A $1.50 savings per package across 200 monthly sales is $300 back in your pocket.
Packaging
Poly mailers are the standard — lightweight (1-2 oz), waterproof, cheap in bulk:
| Size | Use Case | Bulk Cost |
|---|---|---|
| 10x13" | Single shirts, pants, dresses | $0.10-0.20 each |
| 14.5x19" | Coats, bundles, sweaters | $0.15-0.30 each |
| 6x9" | Bralettes, lightweight tops | $0.08-0.12 each |
Use our poly mailer size guide to match the right size to every clothing type.
Optional: wrap in tissue paper ($0.03-0.05/sheet) for elevated unboxing. On Poshmark especially, this generates positive reviews and repeat customers.
Shipping Rates by Platform
Poshmark: Prepaid USPS Priority Mail — seller pays nothing for the label. Buyer pays $7.97. Stay under 5 lbs.
Mercari: Prepaid labels through USPS/UPS/FedEx. Under 1 lb USPS First Class runs $5.99. Can also ship on your own for less.
eBay: USPS First Class (under 1 lb) runs $4-5.50 via eBay’s discounted pricing. Consider offering free shipping — eBay’s algorithm boosts those listings.
Depop: Seller-managed. Print discounted labels through Pirate Ship for the best rates.
For a full breakdown of cheapest options across every carrier, see our shipping for resellers guide.
The 1 lb Threshold
USPS First Class maxes out at 15.99 oz. Above that, you’re bumped to Priority Mail — $3-5 more per package. If your item weighs 14 oz and the poly mailer adds 2 oz, you’ve crossed into Priority territory. Use thinner mailers and skip unnecessary packaging extras to stay under. Always weigh item plus packaging before printing a label.
Batch Shipping
Once you’re selling 5+ items per week, batch operations: print all labels in the evening, pack in one session, drop off or schedule USPS free Package Pickup. This pickup service alone saves hours weekly compared to post office trips.
Scaling Your Clothing Resale Business: From Side Hustle to Full-Time
Stage 1: Closet Cleanout ($0-500/month)
Selling your own items on 1-2 platforms. 5-20 listed, 3-10 sales/month. Focus on learning the process — photography, listing mechanics, shipping rhythm. Don’t optimize yet, just sell and learn.
Stage 2: Active Sourcing ($500-2,000/month)
Regular thrift runs (1-2x/week), cross-listing on 2-3 platforms, inventory of 50-150 items, 15-40 sales/month, $20-35 average sale price.
Case study — Rachel’s Part-Time Closet: Rachel sources at two Goodwills every Saturday, spending $40-60 on 10-15 pieces. Lists Sunday afternoons on a foam board flat-lay setup. Her 120-listing Poshmark closet averages 22 sales/month at a $28 average sale price ($616 gross). After sourcing ($200), packaging ($15), and Poshmark’s 20% ($123), she nets ~$278/month for 8 hours/week. By month six, refined sourcing pushed her average sale to $33 and net profit to $400/month.
Stage 3: Semi-Professional ($2,000-5,000/month)
Sourcing 3-5x/week from thrift stores, bins, clearance, and possibly wholesale. 300-600 active listings across 3-4 platforms. Using crosslisting software, batch shipping, expense tracking. Target: photograph, list, and store any item in under 10 minutes.
Case study — Marcus’s Multi-Platform Business: Marcus runs eBay, Poshmark, Mercari, and Depop — specializing in men’s vintage athletic wear (80s-90s Nike, Adidas, Champion). His 450 active listings gross $3,800-4,200/month. Expenses: sourcing ($600), supplies ($80), crosslisting software ($29), platform fees (~$520). Net profit: $2,570-2,970/month at ~25 hours/week, or $25-30/hour. His brand knowledge lets him spot $5 items that sell for $40-80.
Stage 4: Full-Time ($5,000-10,000+/month)
LLC formed. Sourcing daily from multiple channels including wholesale. 1,000+ listings. Dedicated storage. Possibly hiring part-time help. Focus shifts to sourcing efficiency, inventory turnover (sell within 60-90 days), upmarket brand strategy, and financial tracking (quarterly taxes, expense deductions).
Scaling Checklist
- [ ] Dedicated photo area with consistent lighting
- [ ] Standing steamer (handles 50+ items/session vs. iron)
- [ ] Shipping station: scale, printer, tape, poly mailers in multiple sizes
- [ ] Crosslisting software (List Perfectly, Vendoo)
- [ ] Inventory tracking (spreadsheet or dedicated software)
- [ ] Consistent weekly sourcing schedule
- [ ] Bulk packaging orders (quarterly)
- [ ] Separate business bank account
- [ ] Mileage tracking for sourcing trips ($0.67/mile deduction in 2026)
- [ ] Quarterly estimated tax payments once net profit exceeds $1,000/quarter
Common Mistakes New Clothing Resellers Make
1. Listing Low-Value Items
Spending 15 minutes photographing, listing, and shipping an $8 Mercari sale nets ~$2.50 profit — that’s $10/hour. Set a minimum: don’t list anything below $15 early on, never below $10 unless bundled.
2. Pricing Emotionally Instead of Using Comps
“I paid $80 for this dress so I should get $50.” The market doesn’t care. Check sold comps on every single item. If it’s selling used for $18, sell at $18 or keep it.
3. Poor Photography
Wrinkled, dark, blurry photos make a $50 item look like $10. Photography is the single highest-leverage time investment in clothing resale.
4. Listing and Forgetting
Every platform rewards activity. On Poshmark, daily sharing is essential. On eBay, relisting resets search ranking. Set a daily or weekly routine: share, drop prices on aging items, relist stale inventory.
5. Not Cross-Listing
Selling on one platform means one audience. An item that sits for months on Poshmark might sell in a week on Depop. Cross-listing doubles exposure — manage it efficiently with crosslisting software.
6. Underestimating Shipping Costs
A $3.50 shipping miscalculation across 50 monthly sales is $175/month lost. Weigh items before listing. Know the First Class vs. Priority Mail threshold.
7. Not Tracking Numbers
If you don’t know your cost of goods, average sale price, sell-through rate, and net profit per item, you’re blind. A simple spreadsheet transforms your decisions within a month.
8. Building a Death Pile
“Death pile” = sourced inventory that’s purchased but never listed. Money on the floor, depreciating. Process every sourcing haul within 48 hours: steam, photograph, list. If you can’t commit to listing within 48 hours, stop sourcing until you catch up.
Frequently Asked Questions
How much money can you realistically make selling clothes online?
Casual closet cleanouts yield $200-500 total. Part-time resellers maintaining 100-200 listings typically net $300-800/month. Full-time resellers with 500+ listings across platforms commonly net $2,000-5,000/month, with top performers exceeding $10,000. The limiting factors are inventory volume, sourcing quality, and listing consistency.
What is the best platform to sell clothes online in 2026?
No single best — it depends on what you sell. Poshmark for women’s fashion ($25+ items). Mercari for affordable clothing and men’s apparel. eBay for vintage, menswear, and high-value pieces. Depop for trendy/curated vintage targeting younger buyers. The most profitable approach is cross-listing on 2-3 platforms. Compare exact numbers with our platform fee comparison tool.
How do I price used clothes to sell quickly but still profit?
Research sold comps on your target platform — what items actually sold for, not what they’re listed at. Price 15-20% above the average sold price to leave negotiation room. Include original retail price in descriptions to anchor value. Use our flip profit calculator to determine minimum sale price needed after fees and shipping.
Do I need to wash clothes before selling?
Always. Wash, steam, and lint-roll every item before photographing. Musty thrift store smell results in returns and negative reviews. Use unscented detergent (fragrance sensitivities exist) and hang or steam dry to avoid shrinkage.
Is it worth selling $5-10 items?
Generally no, unless on zero-fee platforms (Vinted, Facebook Marketplace local). On fee-based platforms, a $10 sale nets $5-7 after fees — subtract sourcing, packaging, and time, and your hourly rate is negligible. Focus on $15+ items. Exception: bundle lower-value pieces into profitable lots.
How long does it take for clothes to sell online?
Hot brands with strong photos can sell within hours. Average items take 2-6 weeks. Seasonal items may wait months. Roughly 30% of well-priced clothing sells within 2 weeks, another 30% within 30-60 days, and the remaining 40% needs price drops, better photos, or cross-listing to move.
What’s the cheapest way to ship clothes?
Poly mailers (not boxes) for packaging — lighter and cheaper. USPS First Class for items under 1 lb ($4-5.50 via Pirate Ship or eBay’s discounted labels). On Poshmark, shipping is prepaid at no cost to you. Always weigh item plus packaging before selecting a service tier.
Should I sell my own clothes first or jump straight into sourcing?
Start with your closet. Zero risk, zero cost, and you learn the entire process without financial pressure. After 20-30 sales, you’ll know whether to invest in sourced inventory — and every skill transfers directly.
Selling clothes online profitably isn’t about one viral listing. It’s a repeatable system: source smart, photograph well, price from data, list across platforms, ship efficiently, and reinvest profits into better inventory. The resellers earning $2,000-5,000+ monthly aren’t doing anything magical — they’ve built these systems and refined them over time.
Start with your closet this weekend. Photograph 10 items, list them across two platforms, and get your first sale under your belt. Every reseller earning four or five figures a month started with that exact same step. The difference between them and everyone else is that they kept going.